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Fishing / History
Posted By: King In Response To: Re: An Open Discussion About Fish Kills (jlmann)
Date: Wednesday, 12-14-11, at 7:41 p.m.
The name was passed on to me, I don't think it's the same fish. As far as I know roach is an old European/English backwoods name from the 1800s passed on by my grandfather's grandfather. Might even have been passed on to them from the original settler days that side of the family had a plantation with the land granted to them by the Queen of England.
The house was destroyed in the fighting during the civil war and never was rebuilt, the land was sold later. I was told the family hid in the root cellar and there was a huge mulberry tree beside the root cellar. When they came out after the battle all that was left was the stump, the house was gone and all they had was a shot up mule.
They had slaves that were treated good. The slaves made their own alcohol and were allowed to go into town to sell it and keep all the money. I was told the north was against slavery because the slaves died in the factories up there, it was too cold for them.
My grandfather's grandfather married Robert E. Lee's niece for a 2nd marriage but they didn't have any children, his first wife was an indian that died giving birth.
Other old names from the 1800s that I'm used to is crappie being called freckle and the common green bream called yellow bellies.
I tried to ID the roach awhile back, I'm pretty sure it's a golden shiner. I've caught them in different places and they can be numerous in old ponds. The ones I've caught averaged about 8 or 9 inches and a couple of the biggest were 13 inches. They tend to stay further out near the surface. If I remember right their gold color seemed to be during the spring and bad freezes doesn't kill them. I think they are sold as the bigger bass size minnows at freshwater bait shops so you might already have some in the lake. It's just an idea for another large baitfish that might work there from what I know about them. I'm guessing you want to catch schooling stripers feeding on the surface.
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